Curse

SS Necro · Mar 24, 2009, 06:29 PM // 18:29

When we cast multiple degens on a foe, do they stack?

Example: Suffering -3, Faintheartedness -3, etc.. Does this add up to -6, or does one remove the other, or reset the timer?? What about say, Suffering, Conjure Phantasm, etc.. do they stack?

Snow Bunny · Mar 24, 2009, 06:31 PM // 18:31

Yes, but degen maxes at -10.

pigdestroyer · Mar 24, 2009, 06:33 PM // 18:33

yes they do stack, to a maximum of -10

ups beat me to it

SS Necro · Mar 24, 2009, 06:39 PM // 18:39

Okay kewl, I was wondering if I was wasting my time with multiple hits on a target.

riktw · Mar 24, 2009, 07:06 PM // 19:06

even more fun, if your target uses mending and gets +3 regen, you can give him -13 degen.
+3 + -13 = -10 and than it stops.

Eragon Zarroc · Mar 24, 2009, 07:21 PM // 19:21

/wiki degen ;-) find all the skils that cause degen and prolly all the ones that cause regen as well ;-)

Tundra · Mar 24, 2009, 07:30 PM // 19:30

ok, i feel how you all hate me now, but i have a question. What does that -10 degen means? that he loses 10 hp per second? or what? how exactly does it work?
The same for healing.
Please help me on this one

Arduin · Mar 24, 2009, 07:36 PM // 19:36

For each pip/arrow of degeneration your character loses 2 health per second.

For each pip of regeneration, your character receives 2 health per second.

From the Wiki....

Antares Ascending · Mar 24, 2009, 07:58 PM // 19:58

While degen maxes at 10, (20 health/Second) additional degen can cancel effects of regen. If a character is at 9 degen and gets a healing breeze at 9 regen the effect is zip but if that Char is also burning ( another 7 degen ) the total effect would be 6 degen.

Rhamia Darigaz · Mar 24, 2009, 08:43 PM // 20:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by antares ascending

while degen maxes at 10, (20 health/second) additional degen can cancel effects of regen. If a character is at 9 degen and gets a healing breeze at 9 regen the effect is zip but if that char is also burning ( another 7 degen ) the total effect would be 6 degen.

itt: -9+9-7=-6

Sookie · Mar 24, 2009, 08:47 PM // 20:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhamia Darigaz

itt: -9+9-7=-6

more fuzzy math...

MasterSasori · Mar 24, 2009, 08:52 PM // 20:52

degen stacks up to -10 pip

jonnieboi05 · Mar 24, 2009, 11:09 PM // 23:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antares Ascending

While degen maxes at 10, (20 health/Second) additional degen can cancel effects of regen. If a character is at 9 degen and gets a healing breeze at 9 regen the effect is zip but if that Char is also burning ( another 7 degen ) the total effect would be 6 degen.

erm... it would be -7 degen, not 6... <_<

_Nihilist_ · Mar 25, 2009, 01:07 AM // 01:07

Max effective Degen is -10, which is -20hp/second. If you add additional Degen, no more health will be lost. However, if the target of the Degen is given Regen (Healing Breeze, Troll Unguent, I Will Survive!, Mending, etc.), the additional Degen will be counted towards balancing the total effect.

You hit a target with:
Life Siphon @ 16 Blood is -3 Degen
Life Transfer @ 16 is -8 Degen
Suffering is -3 Degen

Total: -14 Degen, max shown -10 Degen and -4 "hidden" Degen

The target is a Monk and uses:
Healing Breeze @ 11 is +8 Regen

Total: -6 Degen remains on the target (-14 + 8 = -6)

Obviously, this is a simple equation, not taking into effect length of the various Hexes/Enchantments used, but you get the idea, I hope.

Chthon · Mar 28, 2009, 02:39 AM // 02:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS Necro

Okay kewl, I was wondering if I was wasting my time with multiple hits on a target.

Well, in the sense that degen stacks -- as you've already read many excellent explanations in this thread -- no, you're not wasting your time with multiple degen skills.

However, in the sense that degen, even max -20hp/sec degen, does far less damage/sec than you can do by other means, you are wasting your time.

With the exception of long-lasting degen with very large area-of-effect (disease, Well of Suffering, couple others), degen is never an efficient way to kill things.